Lv 5. It was terrifying to say the least. Although Dobermans have impressive abilities, they’re not likely to use them unless they’re threatened. They are not random biters. The American Pit Bull has been bred for over 100 years to be extremely aggressive in reaction to pain. If you love Doberman’s then you don’t want to miss what I’ve been working on! This is a brief look at some of the reasons for dog attacks. Louis set out experimenting by selectively breeding dogs and after many generations, he ended up with the Doberman Pinscher—the perfect protector. I've been working with Dobermans exclusively for over 6 years and there's no other breed I'd rather work with. Louis set out to produce the perfect dog for personal protection through selective breeding. With my wife getting her MALE Golden Retriever puppy, would it be okay for me to get my Dobie puppy now/wait a little while, or something else? I guess I could just get a trained Doberman with a good, steady temperament for the intimidation factor and just hope he'd love me enough to try and save me if I was in trouble lol. Save my name and email in this browser for the next time I comment. Careful socialization and obedience training from a young age are essential. They generally don’t have any desire to pick a fight with a person or animal if they don’t feel threatened by them. My doberman is the sweetest girl ever. :). They're the most vicious dog breed ever to walk the Earth. She's got those piercing blue eyes and that calm, watchful demeanor. Puppies also always go first. A father will pick up their toddler as they stroll past your leashed Doberman. I'm not trying to just jump into this, so anything from experienced Doberman owners is very welcome. Silly, I know. Understanding why and how they were created will shed light on why they behave the way they do. As I worked with her, she grew more confident but was she was always timid. We bonded immediately and I knew he was happy but we had some issues to work through. Dobermans have an undeserved bad reputation because of their service to the police and … 1. Everyone knows that dobermans are scary … I knew he had heart. Don’t get in the habit of ignoring the barking either, you need to stay on top of it and provide correction each and every time she does this (or praise if she doesn’t bark when someone walks by). I'm okay with that. She passed away 11 months ago and I was so completely devastated, even today I thinking about the amount of love I’m gonna put into my next dog and I instantly feel un-loyal to Bree. That's all that you need, or want, to be honest. If not exercised, they are likely to become irritable or even aggressive. I lost my Dobie girl last year at 17, which is old for any dog but the big ones, even more so. I know adopted adult dogs tend to have their quirks and everything, I know I won't get a perfect dog. Once I was walking to the store, and a leashed Doberman lashed out and nipped me. They're cute to look at, but they're more than a handful of trouble. A well-socialized Doberman is an extremely loving and gentle dog and they’re even often used as service dogs due to their intelligence, trainability, and kind nature. But no, I haven’t seen any yet! They're low shedding, fairly clean dogs. Subscribe to my e-mail list so you’ll be notified when these big changes come! It’s not fair to the dog. Hi Sheri! She would bark at people who came over at first but never was aggressive. Hey John. Some say their brains grow too big for their skull size causing this viciousness. I also decided that her soft ears would never be mutilated and her full tail could knock off the stuff from the coffee table and that was OK, too. I suggest you do more research, and please check out the Doberman forum, where you will be able to interact with some of the nations top breeders, and Doberman … Both times by dobermans. I'll take an adult I have to work with over a puppy. This also means that you must be a balanced individual so your dog is not feeding off of your emotions, and perceiving a non-threat as a threat. If she doesn’t, then provide immediate reward and praise. She was my baby girl and the most close to a human I’d ever seen. I'm sorry you've been bitten, I got bit by a dog last year, unprovoked riding my bike. This does not equate to being abusive, this means consistent discipline and training, followed by high value treat and LOTS of praise. Through the years I noticed the public was much more cautious around the tri-colored ones (example of tri smoothie: http://imgur.com/a/lh1Tq ). While these gifs are cute, this is a serious topic. 1. They are lightning fast when it comes to training, and extremely biddable. That’s such a great story Brenda, thank you so much for sharing! 24 Reasons Dobermans Are Truly Scary, Dangerous Dogs. /u/angrybroad when you say trained, what exactly do you mean? Hi Brian! I've decided that someday I'd really like to adopt a trained, adult Doberman for companionship and protection. Kevlar Dobermans are bred for health, temperament & conformation. Unfortunately, this unique combination of physical characteristics make them the perfect “villain dog” in movies and television, and they’re often portrayed as such. I am asked all three questions quite regularly when I’m in public with my dog. A protection dog with a less good temperament will be operating out of agitation, nervousness and fear - and will more likely bite the wrong person (a kid) or be ineffective when needed. No way all Dobermans are bad with kids and other animals, but what do I know? Male Dobermans have also been known to have issues living with other male dogs in the same household. He worked at least two jobs at that time. When you say testy, what exactly do you mean? My best friend (don’t tell my wife) was an 11 yr old female Dobie named Bree that went with me everywhere, and moved all over the US with me (Retired military). But once you get down to the real root cause as to why they’re acting out and destroying things, trying to bite someone that comes to the door, or struggling from other behavioral issues, it’s not because they are mean. Just looking at these dogs can strike fear into many people, and frankly, it’s understandable. Doberman Inspiring Facts While they are excellent guard dogs, the Doberman also makes an excellent Dog. It is estimated that 3.6 million pit bull type dogs are in the U.S. At least it doesn’t appear that way. Good luck to you no matter what you decide! Dogs 101: Doberman Pinscher Most Popular Dog Breeds Dobie – Animal Facts Intelligent, alert, and tenaciously loyal companions, the Doberman Pinscher is driven, strong, and sometimes stubborn. They will stick close by your side and keep you safe at all costs. Dangerous Doberman. We never really exposed him to kids much or at least I don't remember him being around them often but they don't really have to be testy with kids if properly socialized, trained and if the kids understand when the Dobe is giving clear signals it wants to not be harassed right then. Please see Dogsbite.org: U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities (2005 to 2017). While every dog has its own personality, female Dobermans have a reputation for displaying more aggression than their male counterparts. Like humans. Dobermans have an undeserved bad reputation because of their service to the police and military, and because they look so competent. That’s just one department in the nation. So, someone once came up with a special category of dogs and called them “fighting dogs”, implying that all breeds that are on this list are born killers, which by definition cannot be affectionate pets. I think Labrador Retrievers have the highest population size and might therefore drop down the list when graphed this way, and so on. This subreddit is a great starting point for a lot of information, but you should always verify and expand upon what you've read before putting it to use in your daily life. At 1-year-old though, this type of behavior is pretty common. she was very loyal and listen very well. These people all believe that this is a dangerous breed. When a bite from a K9 is on the job doing what they were trained to do should get count on it own and not included when the family pet bites someone. While Doberman Pinschers certainly have the physical abilities to be quite dangerous animals, the modern-day Doberman is generally well suited for a companionship role and is not likely to be overly aggressive. The modern-day Doberman, is a far cry from the “Devil Dogs” of the past, however. Did you know? Dobermans aren’t mean, but their owners can be. That is a really GREAT point. Louis decided he needed a dog to accompany him on his rounds through the town collecting taxes for his own safety. He did not pass his “aggression test” at the shelter (that’s another topic) and they planned to euthanize him. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts I also don't want a dog that's bad with kids, because I'm an aunt and it's possible I could have children of my own within the time span I'd have the Doberman. Dobermans, when not trained properly, can be really scary and out of control. Should I be wary of them in my situation? I see that German Shepherds say they only have 20 bites per the CDC. The tug of war began. It took time and I do mean time and patience. Are Dobermans Mean, Dangerous, or Overly Aggressive? Saved by BuzzFeed. They will generally only act out to protect themselves or their owners from a perceived danger. You will find the answers in the article. Dobermans can be dangerous, but so can Chihuahuas and poodles. But a dog is only as dangerous as its human trains it - or lack thereof - to be. In the Battle of Guam, 25 Dobermans died serving their country in the battle against the Japanese. But I see what you’re saying… if there are double of breed #1 out there but these stats show the same bite-related deaths as breed #2, then you could actually conclude that breed #1 is half as likely to cause a death from a bite. What were the details of the study? Rendered fat can make this situation significantly worse. And part of why I like Dobermans is because they look so intimidating. I have also seem some pretty loving, passive Pit Bulls. Dobermans can be dangerous, but so can Chihuahuas and poodles. Basically, Rottweilers, Dobermans, etc., they're bred to be guard dogs, pretty much. adult Doberman for companionship and protection. Source(s): https://shrinkurl.im/a0Urk. These statistics are purely just the number of dog bite fatalities by breed that were reported. But. Not everybody can control a nervous-aggressive German shepherd for example. Just an attestment to how truly intelligent and obedient these dogs really are. I've been around small flat-faced dogs (Pekingese and Boston terriers) my whole life and, though I love those breeds, I want to move onto big, scary looking dogs. Not aggressive. Check out the article I wrote about stopping a Doberman from barking for some good ideas on this. I’ve had doberman, Rottweiler and now pit bull. So if you had a male, odds are it would not like or tolerate other male dogs. In fact, that's the normal state for a protection trained dog - unless they are in a situation that calls for force, they are quietly, calmly watching. I believe general personality traits can be said about a breed, but I refuse to believe a well-trained, responsibly-owned, healthy dog can't adapt to different situations and households. Find out in my article Do Dobermans Turn on Their Owners? When I said protection, I was referring to their intimidating appearance and their reputation for being protective (though other people who've answered have made it seem like they won't be unless they've been trained to do so). That comment was great until you started talking about her tail... That sounds like a really great dog: why do you think one would be available to be adopted? In countless of situations I’d be met by the owner of the Pitt Bull and neighbors and they always said the same thing. The pool guy will be afraid to step in your backyard just by seeing your dog staring at him. I said “leave it”……nothing. I hope you've recovered ok. You would loooovvee Apollo, he attempts to destroy my guests sense of personal space with nuzzling, awkward eye contact, and kisses. 227. There's always people willing to adopt baby animals because they're cute. To get a Doberman suitable for protection work is an expensive & heavy duty undertaking. Well, you really shouldn’t be. They were referred to as “Devil Dogs.”. Read Are Dobermans Good Family Dogs for more information on exactly why Dobermans really do make an amazing family pet. After taking his knot she will have a lot of orgasms while his knot is moving against her g-spot. Dobermans are loving animals, yet they do have the physical ability to be dangerous if they need to be (they're large, strong, and have a powerful bite). They do possess a number of other impressive temperament traits that really makes them great family dogs. Focus on maintaining consistent correction for one or two weeks, then try purposely provoking her by walking by the fence yourself. But as an owner, you should be open to discussion because the Dobermann is not a recipient of orders. And that smooth collie is beautiful!! Also, you’ll want to stay on top of the other dogs too—it’ll be hard to expect her to stop barking and charging the fence when other dogs are barking. Also as dog owner and trainer I can tell you that owning a Pit Bull is not worth the risk. In the 70s and 80s, if I’m right, doberman was at the first place because it was the dog that everybody had for guardian/defense and there was a lot of backyard breeders with no selection experience. For example, # of deaths caused by Pit Bulls per 1000 Pit Bulls. Just the right one for me. An adult Doberman who hasn't been raised around cats could have quite a hard time adjusting to not chasing a cat. The calmer and more watchful they are, the more intimidating. They have been said to be aggressive and could turn any time on their owners, causing a potentially dangerous situation. And I don't have the skill, time, or patience to raise a puppy, get it through the teething stage, get it housebroken, train it, socialize it, etc. If she barks and charges, provide immediate correction. There's variation in Doberman temperaments - some skittish, some rock solid and everything in between. She worked with a retired surgeon that loves Dobermans and loves flying his plane and he brought my boy back up to me. He pulled back. I said “Good boy!” To this day, he will let go of, and often times bring me, anything I tell him to drop. Almost any dog will bark. I believe my Dobie of 11 yrs was more of a European Dobie according to your videos, specifics, and appearance but she was our only dog. So I pulled. Read my article all about the differences between the European and American Doberman here. A dog that has to stay at home or locked up because he's unruly, is not very good for protection. Because of this, it’s easy to see how many people see them as potentially overly aggressive and dangerous. I gave him no ground, said nothing, just constant tension on the towel. You're not going to a trained (meaning basic obidence) adult Doberman just anywhere, a breeder is your best bet when it comes to finding that type of match, and I'm talking about a retired show dog...or a dog that for one reason or another was a wash in the show ring. Been owner of doberman in the passed, think best dog ever but don’t think that these statistics are good to be considered. Why does this happen? So I don’t believe the notion that it’s always the owner. So that makes me doubt that they are counting police K9 bites. My landlady/neighbor is terrified and hates my dog because she was chased by a German shepherd when younger. The puppy was fine and the doberman seemed to feel ok after he checked her out but the difference in the 2 dogs reaction was a perfect example of their contrast in sensitivity. Dobermans can be aggressive towards other dogs, especially while on a leash. Who performed the study? On the other hand, she was not friendly with other dogs in her later yrs (Probably more my fault then her age as I quit taking her to dog parks and to stores). My boyfriend's family has a husky girl and I've just fallen in love with bigger dogs since I met her. They tend to bite, release, and re-bite in very rapid succession. I believe dogs, all dogs, are really special beings and if they are made to become “bad” – it is the fault people. Dobermans are not volatile, and a well bred Doberman should be bomb-proof. Because a dog that will physically protect you becomes a liability very quickly when it can't tell the difference between an unwanted intruder and a mailman or girlscout. They are not for 'average' owners. Crazy smart and funny (best 11 yrs of my life). idk about around children but my brothers ex had one and she was great. I’ve seen some pretty vicious chihuahuas. Getting a Dobie pup of the same-sex might be an issue when they hit puberty but every dog is different and almost any situation can work, these are just my recommendations if you want the highest probability of the two dogs getting along. You must train dogs to be ok with cats, they don't come straight off the lot that way. Here are 58 facts to help better inform you about this majestic breed. I can tell you from personal experience that this is confusing to a Doberman owner. If you want the least problems possible, you have the best chance waiting until your new dog is an adult (2 years old or so) and then getting a Dobie puppy of the opposite sex. They still retain their natural protective instincts and will certainly take action if necessary, yet they are very kind, loving, and predictable. I have a Yorkie and old mini pin that is barking as well and that seems to work her up in a frenzied mess. We only had to go through that exercise once. A “thirteen year study”. The female I raised from a pup was the runt and was afraid to even pass by a trash can as we walked down the street. Puppy mills could care less. Dobermans can be aggressive towards strangers, but this is usually only if they feel threatened or that their owners are in danger. I suggest you do more research, and please check out the Doberman forum, where you will be able to interact with some of the nations top breeders, and Doberman enthusiasts. It might be a combination of the following factors or even something entirely different as well. But is it deserved? Do they exercise? Dobermans are loving animals, yet they do have the physical ability to be dangerous if they need to be (they’re large, strong, and have a powerful bite). I've never heard of Dobermans being considered bad with children, but I will speak to same-sex aggression in the breed. Oh, when she was a puppy she loved running around and chasing my boys and playing, but as she got older she preferred me (female) and began to ignore all children and young people. The reality is that these are wonderful family dogs, each with their own personality, but none of them “evil” at heart. she had a bunch of love to give and I never had a problem with her when walking her. Our Doberman Cooper was still a puppy when he first demonstrated his talent for howling. However early socialization can prevent this. I figured I'd have to find a breeder, but I still want to check shelters and rescues just in case. Required fields are marked *. During the late 1800s, Karl Friedrich Louis Dobermann lived in Apolda, Germany. He loves me and he absolutely loses his mind if he thinks someone is hurting me, he just doesn't realize he's basically the size of a shoe lol). Look underneath the table of data, the source is cited there. Dobermans are susceptible to copper buildup in the liver which can be very dangerous. That's a big thing that draws me to them. This is far from reality. The temperament of a well bred Doberman should not at all be shy or vicious, but should be obedient, loyal, alert, energetic, and fearless. The European Doberman is a much closer relation to Louis Dobermann’s original dog than the American variant. The average Joe who's up to no good can't tell if a calm dog is protection trained or not and will not take a chance. Your email address will not be published. All great qualities for a family pet. There are a lot of really great things in the works here at Doberman Planet. Good luck and great work. Is the owner educated on how to train the dog? A steady big dog, especially if it's dark in color, is a huge deterrent just by existing. They have many physical features that were originally bred into these dogs to help them perform their desired role. There are other big dogs which can be a deterrent that are less work or energy than a Dobe. Also, Malinois is the most common police dog used out here where we live (California) and I know for sure that each year, just at our local police department, their K9’s get at least a handful of bites and they aren’t even on this list. Of course, each dog has its own personality, but this is typical of the breed in general. I live in the Sacramento area of California and love spending quality time with Cooper, my 6-year-old Doberman Pinscher. In fact, their scissor-like jaw action, which can inflict multiple bites in very rapid succession, makes their bite one of the most dangerous in the world. Dobermans are built to work in a personal protection roll. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Here is an example of Dobbie sensitivity. Doberman Pinschers originated in Germany during the late 19th century, mostly bred as guard dogs. They will generally only become aggressive while attempting to protect themselves or their owners from a perceived threat. nothing. Other than a companion/protector why do you want a Doberman specifically? Luckily, she’ll likely settle down as she matures (probably by the age of 2 or so). I totally agree about the kids. He did this by using the various dogs he had access to at the dog pound. I said nothing and maintained constant pulling pressure toward me. They have sensitive stomachs (not to the exaggeration this sub likes to claim),and can have sensitive skin. This is enough pressure to break bones in the right circumstances, or snap a tennis ball in half with one bite. My 1 yr old female charges the fence while other pet owners are walking their leashed dogs. I said “drop it”……. So what kinds of dogs were involved in more deaths during the thirteen-year study? You SHOULD NEVER, ever, ever, have two Dobermans of the same gender living in the same house...it's a recipe for a disaster and there will be a fight to the death, or you will live in a home where you are perpetually rotating dogs who can never come in contact with one another. I don't plan to get the first one I find, nor do I expect a perfect dog. Advice on this forum is absolutely not a substitute for professional advice from a certified behaviorist, trainer, lawyer, or medical professional. Asking if they’re mean is asking about their general state of mind and it’s not a straightforward answer. Louis never documented exactly which dogs he used to produce the Doberman, but it’s commonly believed that he used some combination of the greyhound, rottweiler, German shepherd, great dane, German pinscher, English greyhound shorthaired shepherd, Weimaraner, Beauceron and black and tan terrier (which is now extinct, but is an ancestor to the Manchester terrier). Let’s look at some of the main causes of Doberman attacks or aggression. It’s very common to be approached by other people out in public who want to talk about your beautiful, proud, noble-looking dog. In my opinion, they are by far one of the most satisfying but difficult breeds to own. Doberman Pinschers are instinctually much more protective than they are offensive or aggressive. In World War 2, Dobermans were used extensively by the United States Marine Corps during the various battles for control of the pacific. You’re right on with the statistics. There’s a common myth that Dobermans are prone to randomly snapping, and turning on their owners for no reason. These physical traits make the Doberman have a distinct look that often strikes fear into people who aren’t familiar with the breed. But they’re just great loyal protectors and are generally only dangerous to those threatening the ones they are close to. The origins of this dog breed are quite recent, as the first Doberman was bred in Germany in 1890. Scary looking for the protection. Should I get a male or female Dobie? If a tri-colored smooth collie would be so intimidating, imagine what a well trained, steady Doberman would be like. Even in what seems like normal, every-day situations to you and me and they may act out. Doberman Pinschers are not mean by nature. Is there data that adjusts the number of deaths caused by each breed based on the corresponding breed population size? Non-aggressive breeds, besides lacking the Doberman’s aggression, lack the Doberman’s sturdy temperament and ability to deal with stress. As I've said elsewhere in this thread, I'm a young woman. This means that their teeth come together in a fairly precise, interlaced way (like interlacing your fingers) as they bite down. After a few phone calls to the rescue, the director flew him up to me. But to be honest, I think it would be fine to get a Dobie pup who is a similar age to the Golden Retriever if they were of the opposite sex. During my time offering consulting services to Doberman owners, I have come across a few dogs that appear to have a bit of a mean streak in them. But while that stereotype is not necessarily true, potential dog owners might want to still think twice before bringing a Doberman home. Info about the breed makes them sound like very testy dogs who can't handle any sort of rambunctiousness. All beautiful breeds if treated in the right way. Or tossing the ball endlessly for him. One of the common reasons people see Dobermans as ferocious is because of their bite. I believe it had the Doberman as the 17th most popular dog and the Bit Pull as the 85th most popular. Dobermans are naturally protective, its not something that needs to be trained into the dog, per say, unless you want to compete in Schutzhund/IPO, but that is a WHOLE another level of protection and not every dog is made for it. It also allows them to cut through objects with ease. I hope you do find a way to get a young Dobie pup at some point when it’s right for you! Edit: I meant "emotionally sensitive" in the title. You must, like all breeds, get them out running, walking, hiking, swimming (whatever they enjoy). Any overly aggressive behavior from a Doberman is likely the result of a severe lack of socialization or mistreatment from their owner. And respect see Pitbulls then Rottweilers then German shepherd ’ s rare to see Dobermans as ferocious is of! 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